Por Nicolás Bozonchuk (@nicobozonn).
La eliminación por Copa Argentina fue dura e inesperada. La resaca del campeón jugó una mala pasada, y ahora no quedó otra que cambiar la cara. El cambio fue literal, porque para el partido de esta noche, Demichelis sorprendió y guardó a los referentes del equipo. Presentó un equipo totalmente alternativo y le dio minutos a quienes corren en desventaja y deben mostrarse para quedarse en el club. Por eso, cambiando el esquema a un 4-1-3-2, el Más Grande salió con: Ezequiel Centurión; Andrés Herrera, Robert Rojas, Emanuel Mammana, Elías Gómez; Matías Kranevitter, Santiago Simón, Agustín Palavecino, José Paradela; Pablo Solari y Salomón Rondón.
🔚 Final del partido. Rosario Central 3 – River 3.#VamosRiver ⚪️🔴⚪️ pic.twitter.com/plpTkhsfWn
— River Plate (@RiverPlate) July 24, 2023
Los primeros minutos del encuentro fueron de escaneo, sin chances claras pero de ida y vuelta. Central apostó a los centros por la banda izquierda, y River a puro toque con los volantes internos. El carril de Andrés Herrera era el elegido para cada ataque, asociándose con José Paradela. Pero cuando el “Canalla” atacaba, River sufría y en demasía. Luego de un rebote en tres cuartos de cancha, Malcorra condujo y abrió el juego hacia Campaz, quien desbordó y conectó con Véliz que definió solo en el punto de penal. Baldazo de agua fría, pero quedaba mucho por delante. La primera ocasión llegó después del golpe, tras un remate de Pablo Solari que Broun tapó con lo justo. Minutos después, Salomón Rondón se hizo el espacio en el área y remató fuerte al arco, pero Broun volvió a responder para su equipo. Y en la siguiente, los locales contra atacaron y casi marcan el segundo luego de un cabezazo de Véliz, pero el travesaño salvó al Millonario. Como si fuera poco, River se cansó de regalar pases, que Central aprovechaba para atacar con Giaccone y Malcorra. Este último pudo haber marcado un verdadero golazo de tres dedos, pero la mano salvadora de Ezequiel Centurión evitó el segundo del “Canalla”. Palo a palo, River empujaba y con individualidades quería igualar la historia, pero Broun se vistió de figura y no hubo forma de marcar antes del complemento.
Ya en la segunda etapa se notó que River no quería perder el partido, por eso salió a apabullar a su rival como sea. Tuvo dos: primero una corrida de Paradela, que definió cruzado pero directo a las manos del arquero. Y la segunda fue la definitiva para jugar con otro chip, luego de un centro de Solari para Rondón que anticipó y aprovechó para marcar el empate definitivo. Cuarto gol para el venezolano en 20 partidos con la banda. El partido no daba respiro, y Central quiso recuperar lo suyo con un cabezazo de Véliz que contuvo Centurión sin problemas. El equipo de Russo sabía que River estaba mejor, y que tenía las herramientas correspondientes para dar vuelta la historia. Por eso, Demichelis no dudó y movió el banco metiendo en cancha a Enzo Díaz y a Claudio Echeverri en lugar de Andrés Herrera y Santiago Simón, quienes estaban amonestados. Las variantes posicionales tenían como objetivo cuidar la pelota para que el partido no se trabe tanto. Sin embargo, Central con muy poco lograba torcer todo lo hecho por River en la segunda etapa. Defensivamente nos cuesta horrores, y más si no se avivan los defensores con las jugadas rápidas. Desde el lateral, Campaz jugó en largo con Malcorra, que desbordó hacia al área y descargó con Véliz, que se tiró al suelo y logró empujar la pelota para sentenciar el 2-1 a favor del elenco rosarino. Cómo toda la noche, la trama fue cambiante, y la alegría “Canalla” se iba a esfumar en cuestión de segundos, ya que Solari se apoyó con Palavecino y disparó a quemarropa al arco de Broun, consiguiendo el empate rápido para seguir en partido. Posterior al empate, River realizó tres variantes más, ingresando David Martínez, Miguel Borja y Matías Suárez en reemplazo de Elías Gómez, Salomón Rondón y José Paradela. Electrizante final se venía en Rosario, el partido parecía que estaba para cualquiera. La balanza y la racha de los locales en su estadio parecía ser un maleficio para el Millonario. En una aproximación por la banda izquierda, Gino Infantino quedó de espaldas al arco, tiró un taco que salteó líneas y le quedó Luciano Ferreyra, que la cruzó y puso el 3-2 a menos de un minuto de haber ingresado. El golpe fue letal, pero a segundos del final, Enzo Díaz tiró un centro MAGNÍFICO a las espaldas de todos los defensores de Central y ahí apareció Solari, para callar a todos los hinchas locales.
Empate a puro huevo, luchando hasta el final. Escondieron las pelotas e hicieron tiempo. Jamás se negoció la actitud, este equipo alternativo luchó hasta el último segundo. Se rescatan cosas muy pero muy positivas, más ante uno de los rivales que más fuerte se hace de local. A coronar este torneo con Racing en el Monumental, ¡Vamos River!
🔥¡¡𝐐𝐔𝐄 𝐏𝐎𝐄𝐒𝐈́𝐀 𝐇𝐄𝐑𝐌𝐎𝐒𝐀 𝐏𝐈𝐁𝐄!!🔥
⚽️El gol AGÓNICO en el ÚLTIMO MINUTO para empatar el partido 3-3 entre #River y Rosario Centralpic.twitter.com/LZ9tllOTCl
— Pasión Monumental (@pmonumental) July 24, 2023
Felicitaciones a la pelota que chocó contra tRoncon.
Mienten los periodistas cuando dicen que River tiene dos equipos.
Comparadrado con el 1er tiempo, en el 2do fue el City, lástima el cagadón de Mamanna.
No entendí el csmbio de Herrera. No era directamente E. Díaz por E. Gómez?
3 a 3 levantando 3 veces el resultado
Dadas las circunstancias es para cagarse de risa
Ultima fecha estos mismos jugadores que enseguida vienen los 8vos
Pobre Central, que habràn hecho con la bandera gigante 🙂
Vamos Campeón!
Bueno, fue dicho, no se podía ganar con ésta formación…falló el oráculo 😉
El empate fue bastante premio, considerando que jugaron 5 o 6 jugadores que no deberían estar en River.
Titulares contra Racing para dar rodaje, 5 cambios en el ST, y después tienen 4 días de descanso sin viaje.
Lo de Mammana fue impresentable en el segundo gol y en el tercero con cómplices en Rojas en el segundo y Martínez en el tercero dejando que un pibe la pare y meta un taco en la puerta del área.
Simón y Pala a préstamo a que se rompan el culo en equipos de mierda y valoren lo que es vestir la banda.
Herrera otro desastre.
Como dije mil veces…..si a Rondón y a Borja no lo asisten desde los costados les cuesta una enormidad jugar.
Jugar con punteros permite llegar al gol sin taaaaanta elaboración. Debe ser un mensaje.
Véliz es una fiera y con centrales como los de River que nos saben marcar y menos cabecear se hace una fiesta.
Merecido castigo para un DT que de hacer tiempo hace su bandera. Encima los 6 minutos, estuvieron bien y elminuto posterior, pudo ser más.
Vayamos a los aspectos positivos, me he cansado de decirlo Solari es un jugador que le puede dar muchísimo a River, en el primer tiempo le sacaron dos tiros abajo en gran actuación del arquero rosarino, además metió dos centros shots que uno la tocó Rondón y también se la sacó el arquero, en el complemento una asistencia y dos goles, quisiera decir crack pero todavía le falta es muy pibe.
El otro aspecto positivo es que si el Micho tiene dos dedos de frente se tiene que dar cuenta que el esquema con un solo delantero lo tiene que desactivar, hoy con un medio campo muy flojo metimos casi 10 situaciones de gol y tres goles.
Del resto salvo Centurión y un poquito Rondón muy pobre. Rondón facturó y le sacaron otra, pero también reboto mal un montón de pelotas…
Me cuesta encontrar alguién en el equipo inicial para alternar en la primera de River.
Es un tema serio, no se que se puede hacer con tantos inútiles y si se va De la Cruz como se dice, problemón.
Al Diablito lo sacudieron bastante y no arrugó, no le daban un maldito pase, tiene que entrar mas seguido en los segundos tiempos.
River salió campeón a pesar del técnico. Fue poque hubo cinco jugadores que están muy por encima del mediocre nivel del fútbol local: Armani, González Pires, Aliendro, De la Cruz y Beltrán (más un poquito de Borja y a veces el chileno). Lo demás, puro relleno. Al técnico jamás se le cayó una idea, y mucho menos en materia de cambios y planteos. Y ni hablar de la banda de mediocres que jugaron esta noche: Paradela, Rondón, Palavecino, Simón, Elías Gómez, Rojas, Herrera son impresentables y no deberían estar un minuto más con esta camiseta. Y lo de Mammana ya es patético. Un ex jugador que estuvo presente en los tres goles de Central. Además hay que conseguir ya un arquero, porque Armani se vuelve a Colombia en diciembre. Si este equipo lo empató fue porque Central es horrible, hizo tiempo y tiene un técnico amarrete y obsoleto.
Guillermo, dejalo asì, si agregaba un minuto mas nos hacian el cuarto gol 🤣
Partido infernal de Solari, que mantuvo a River en juego.
Una pena lo de Mammana, no está ni para suplente. Si no fue su peor partido en River,pasa raspando. También con los laderos que tuvo…(claramente ninguno de los tres que armaron la defensa inicial tiene nivel para River).
Hay mucho para vender o prestar, pero me da la sensación que se van a desprender de muy poco… No dan los tiempos y no creo que haya muchas ofertas por los nuestros.
Es importante que la metan los nueves, para lo que viene, sea quien sea. Como dice Hreba, Borja y Rondón son para empujarla ahi, en el area. Para partidos de Copa, capaz te puedan salvar.
Contra Racing calculo que veremos un equipo similar.
Rescato que al menos se fue siempre por el resultado más allá de las adversidades. Nunca es fácil jugar con 11 suplentes juntos.
Seguro que soy sacrílego pero no me gusta Micho. Si bien ya se ganó el torneo. no hay por qué dilapidar el prestigio contra Central. Rondón!!! qué hace ese tipo en River? Aunque meta 10 goles en un partido se nota demasiado que le queda enorme el puesto de 9. Creí que Centurión podía ser el reemplazo de Armani. Urgente otro arquero. Pone a Solari por la izquierda. cuando siempre rindió por derecha. Ahí va Suárez, al que no quiere poner y se irá repuesto d3 la endfermería al igual que Lollo. único al que se le ocurre poner un 3 en el fondo contra un equipo brazuca. Hará lo mismo contra Inter? La defensa…. Menos mal que el tipo fué defensor, no se entiende cómo prepara la defensa. Tuvimos suerte de que Central con el primer tiempo creyó que ya nos tenía y decidió poner a Solari donde debe jugar. Si no, pasaban verguenza,
Salomon cerrando ojetes en 3..2..1….Rondonetaaaaaaaaa…..estamos de festejos muchachos…..serenidad….no éramos taaaannnn buenos ni ahora tannnn malos…..me encantó el gol en descuento por el hdmp de Russo….vamos carajoooooooii
River era otra cosa.
A festejar el empate
Tiempos difíciles para estos players.
Vamos River!
Y en el primer gol también es responsable Mammana que se le da exigida a Centurión y después, tras el centro paga otra vez
Demichelis es horrible,a pesar de alguno que le ve algunaa virtud.dale este plantel a gandolfi,milito,bah,a un técnico y sale campeón 10 fechas antes.sigue insistiendo con tipos irrecuperables y listados crónicos.querws hacer beneficencia,dale,con la tuya.el socio y los hinchas no tenemos por qué aguantar ni un segundo más a paradela,simón,gomez,herrera,mammana(deja de robar),palavecino ,rondón,etc.que los hagan guita urgente o cambien tres de ests perros por uno que sirva.a Rojas,mañana a cortar el pasto,un desastre,son huevos ni ganas de jugar.estan ulises gimenez,zavala,guillen ,efrnandez,el diablito,en serio alguien puede creer que son menos que estos perros?
Coincido 100%, Esteban. La mala praxis de este tipo ya es inaguantable.
Gran partido ofensivo del equipo alternativo, mal partido defensivo del equipo alternativo, muy bien Rondon y Paraleda, Kranevitter estuvo muy solo y los rapiditos de ellos llegaban mucho hasta que se cansaron, a pesar todo hicimos figura al arquero de ellos, ahora viene lo importante, veremos que madera tenemos…….
Para mi tenemos buen plantel, el tema que cuando juegan son 11 cambios, no es tan fácil decir se la tenes que pasar a tu compañero y listo, buena decisión del DT en hacer cambios que no sean lo titulares, hay que hacerlos sentir importante y al Diablito el rigor de nuestro fulbo
Ah y no se si hacia mucho que no lo veía a D Martinez, pero volvió bastante mas armado de físico, buena incorporación…..
iba a poner lo mismo guille , insisto q hay plantel, algunos les falta continuidad, rojas si fuera sicario hacia penal igual quiero incorporar, lo de russo .. no debe tener amigos , alguien q le diga lo pelotudo q queda ! IMPRESENTABLE
se va dlc y traigo a garro y veliz . nada lanzini
Hasta cuando se va a esperar a lanzini,que no tiene la más mínima voluntad de volver?chau,hno,suerte.ahora que se dejen de hacer los hinchas,basta de vender humo.el tipo es megamillonario,y no me vengan conque tiene que vivir en la Argentina porque estos tipos no tienen noción de lo que es la vida real,que nos queda a nosotros ,entonces?basta de rogarle a este forro.cada día más valoro la actitud de ponzio,el chori,categoría,trezeguet(figura conocida mundialmente,goleador de un mundial,no como este 4 de copas)y el gran Enzo perez.hsy que sacarse de encima unos cuantos ,que no dieron ni darán la talla,borja se equivoca en armar quilombo,aunque sea comprensible su fastidio.a paradela,palvecino,simón,rojas,los cambio por veliz y el paraguayo sosa. Tres por uno.es hora que maidana,mammana,suarez,sean honestos y se vayan del club,ya está.que se les de otra función dentro del fútbol,pero adentro de la cancha no tienen nada que hacer.hay que traer un central y un 4,casco está en las últimas.sorprende que un tipo ,supuestamente formador,no le de bola a las inferiores.
sos horrible Demichelis, como se te ocurre sacar al equipo campeon 3 fechas antes!?? aca como hay mucho bosteraje escribiendo prefieren ganar el torneo faltando 5 minutos y gracias a otro equipo que lo ayuda, no se puede creer que escriban todas esas cosas, bueno es el reflejo de la gente de nuestro pais, son expertos en todo pero no salimos nunca, pais de bosteros y peronistas, asi estamos. River hizo un gran torneo y fue un justo campeon, lo que digan o escriban los sabiondos no importa nada.
Es asì Enzo
El campeonato anterior quien y como lo ganò ?
No hay que olvidar eso.
Enzo, yo no puedo creer de verdad que escribas eso!!! Limpiate los ojos. Somos un equipo que nos floreamos contra otros que no juegan a casi nada mientras que contra rivales duros (idem SL, Talleres, Fluminense .. aunque les ganamos en casa muy bien) el equipo no da la talla, tal como lo expresa Hreba no hay otro libreto de juego.
Hay que depurar el plantel de los desastres de Herrera, Rojas, Mammana, Gómez, Paradela, Simón, Palavecino, Rondón, etc.
Si llegamos a 4tos es muchísimo
Se nota mucho la diferencia entre titulares y suplentes, sobre todo en el medio campo que es la clave de este equipo,, más allá de eso me encantó que el VOSTER de Russo pague lo de el carrito,las pelotas, y todas las mugradas que si bien todos hacen lo de ayer ya era asqueroso.!!!!
Ignacio, Demichelis no armo este plantel, el cual venia jugando horrible, mejoro a varios jugadores, salimos campeones y clasificamos a octavos, si me preguntas quiero mucho mas para River pero es lo que hay y para el futbol Argentino sobra, lo escribi varias veces anteriormente, River esta muy pero muy por encima de los demas equipos locales, pero todo lleva su tiempo, no es soplar y hacer botellas, los ciclos necesitan desarrollo, se va por buen camino, veremos como se refuerza el plantel en este mercado de pases y hasta donde peleamos la libertadores, el gran objetivo sera ahora o el año que viene salir campeones para poder jugar el mundial de clubes que aportara una montaña de dinero, venimos de cambiar jugadores por pintura y jugar el Nacional B, este presente era impensado años atras, sin embargo se quejan y critican para mi totalmente fuera de lugar, se ira mejorando, no tengo dudas, pero el presente en mi opinion es muy bueno.
Indudablemente en estos partidos donde juegan todos suplentes es complicado analizar funcionamiento porque no suelen jugar juntos. Solo ideas de juego se pueden analizar en lo que al conjunto se refiere, pero se pueden sacar muchas conclusiones a nivel individual.
Vamos a empezar esto del análisis individual: 1- El arquero recibió cuatro tiros al arco, dos goles en los que poco pudo hacer, uno en el travesaño y el tercero de los goles en los que reacciona tarde, porque creo que no ve la pelota tapado por Rojas. NO GENERÓ CONFIANZA.
2- Entre Herrera y Rojas dejaron huecos terribles que se advirtieron en el primer gol y en el tercero, el amigo Rojas viene al trote antes de que saquen el lateral como si estuviera entrenando relajado. 3- Lo de Mammana ayer fue para escribir un libro de lo que NO hay que hacer. En el primer gol inicia el problema dándole un pase al arquero que lo obliga a rechazar de urgencia, luego pierde a Veliz y no llega a cortar el centro, en el segundo “duerme” en el lateral y le comen la espalda y en el tercero, junto a Martínez, dejan que un pibe recién ingresado pare la pelota y “de espaldas” en la puerta del área meta una asistencia de “taco”. IMPRESENTABLE LO SUYO. 4- Elías Gomez también podía haber marcado a Veliz en el primero y en el segundo gol y siempre lo perdió de vista. 5- En el medio la “paja” que mostraron Palavecino y Simón (este pibe no pegó un pase en toda la tarde) fue alarmante, como sin ganas. 6- Paradela fue el único que quiso gambetear pero con poco final.
Dejo para el final a la delantera. Quedó demostrado ayer, que sin jugar bien, sin un gran funcionamiento y sin la estética que el equipo titular intenta mostrar, se terminaron haciendo más goles que en la mayoría de los partidos. Por qué? Porque hay otras formas de llegar al gol que no sea sólo por la jugada hiper precisa y a velocidad supersónica.
JUGANDO CON UN SOLO PUNTERO, POR LAS PUNTAS, ese puntero, que no es una maravilla ni un super dotado técnicamente, le complicó la vida a los contrarios, a un equipo de Russo que suele defender bien, hizo DOS GOLES, metió la asistencia del primero y el arquero le tapó dos en el primer tiempo aún jugando, en ese tiempo, por la izquierda que es donde menos rinde.
Quedó demostrado que a Rondón y a Borja hay que asistirlos desde los costados para que la empujen y hasta el criticadísimo Rondón metió uno y tuvo otro.
Quedó demostrado ayer, viendo al rival en este caso, lo que VALE UN 9 CON CABEZAZO y que sepa ubicarse para empujarla cuando hay DESBORDE POR LAS PUNTAS. Obviamente me refiero a Véliz.
Hay otras formas………..no me quejo de la forma elegida por el DT, me quejo de que se suelan descartar las otras formas para cuando la elegida no funciona.
Y sumo y recuerdo otras formas: la pelota parada (no cabeceamos un centro nunca) y los tiros libres.
En las estrategias para ganar hay que sumar formas no encerrarse en una sola. A tenerlo en cuenta para el futuro.
Enzo, parece que los únicos comentarios válidos son los tuyos. El fútbol es materia opinable y nadie tiene la verdad absoluta. No me parece que todos aquellos que resaltamos errores seamos bosteros, simplemente expresamos libremente nuestros pensamientos. Me parece tan desafortunado decir que nosotros somos bosteros, como si dijéramos que los que están totalmente a favor son alcahuetes de aquellos a quienes defienden.
Hay algo que se empieza a olfatear y de lo que se habla poco. Lo de Borja es un síntoma. Con Gallardo el plantel era un grupo homogéneo, sin fisuras, más allá de si se jugaba bien, regular o mal había espíritu de cuerpo, solidaridad. Una cultura que se impuso y diferenció definitivamente a River de los cabarets habituales en otros equipos. Nunca un quilombo.
Con Demichelis (que gana, empata, pierde y no aprende) esto se está resquebrajando. Sus torpezas en los planteos y en los cambios, su enamoramiento inexplicable con un jugador carente de cualquier atributo para el fútbol de primera, como Rondón, sus decisiones que llevan al equipo a derrotas deshonrosas (en Bolivia, en Brasil, con Barracas, el miserable empate en Tucumán y hasta las groserías de ayer), su ignorancia del juego de los rivales (siempre los equipos con técnicos inteligentes lo sorprenden aunque todos sepamos de antemano cómo nos jugarán) van a terminar creando malestar y desconfianza en el planteal. Es una historia repetida en el fútbol y por primera vez en casi diez años en River empieza a haber jugadores con cara de orto, con desgano y pensando en irse. Este muchacho ya logró que nos golearan por primera vez en Brasil, que perdiéramos por primera vez en Mendoza y va a conseguir también esto.
Enzo y Sergio, porquè no se presentan en las PASO con sus respectivas SANATAS ?
Uno con que veniamos de la B etc y el otro con el grupo homogeneo
Venimos de 8 años con un mismo DT de 6 palos verdes por año que formò este plantel de punta a punta y comprò jugadores por docena hasta formar este grupo deshilachado de jugadores viejos y lesionados con los mejores sueldos del futbol local.
Desde cuando no se puede criticar ?
Por que no se pueden festejar empates?
Un empate como el de ayer de festeja y mucho. Hay contextos y situaciones
Distinto es jugar a empatar…
Respecto a las criticas: que importa el campeonato 3 fechas antes, con Talleres fuimos un desastre y ayer hubo individualidades que en otro tiempo no jugaban en River ni de casualidad.
Se festejan los campeonatos, se halagan las buenas actuaciones y se critican los errores tanto del técnico como de los jugadores.
No sabia que la definición de ESTO ES RIVER estaba amparado el conformismo sin analisis
Asi como Aliendro pedia titularidad a gritos , tbn ahora Solari
problema para Micho a quien saca
de los volantes.
No hay modo de atacar c un solo delantero a menos q sea Julian y ni asi..
Enzo, River ya está clasificado al Mundial de Clubes 2025, por ranking. Estamos primeros lejos en el ranking Conmebol, aunque no seamos campeones en 2023 o 24.
Es imposible que nos alcancen en el ranking por los puntos de diferencia que tiene River.
Están gastados los estribos de la Michoneta. Mucha gente bajando y subiendo cada 3 días…
Kriko, si no festejaste el empate cuando ya finalizaba el minuto adicionado, prendian bengalas, tapaban con la bandera, …. entonces sos como Milei que era de Boca, un dia ya grande se hizo de River y en cualquier momento se hace de los Pituquitos de Recoleta 🤣
Con errores y todo, cosas lógicas para un principiante, se logró un campeonato en la primera competencia y un campeonato largo que tanto nos costó en la exitosísima época anterior.
Creo que nadie daba dos pesos por una sucesión así tras la ida de Gallardo y menos con este plantel que aceleró la ida del Muñeco porque no respondían.
Yo mismo no esperaba resultados así con la llegada de Micho.
Esto no quiere decir que no se pueda criticar lo que se ve mal, como muchos lo hacíamos con la anterior gestión que hasta mereció una estatua.
Ahora………..hay que aprender de los errores, si no se aprende se estaría desperdiciando la experiencia adquirida y eligiendo un mal camino.
Respecto del grupo, los jugadores te miden permanentemente y en cuanto das un paso en falso intentan hacértelo pagar como DT. Gallardo lo sabía porque él mismo se la hizo pagar a Mostaza cuando él era jugador y Mostaza DT, por eso sabía como tratar ciertos temas.
Esperemos que Micho no siga con algunos caprichos o no empiece con más, porque ese no es el camino, pero igualmente es muy difícil mantener a todos contentos y es más difícil aún tomar decisiones con jugadores reconocidos pero………a veces hace falta.
Pedro, habías pronosticado que River ganaba, y como vos nunca te equivocas 😂😂😂 me senté a ver el triunfo. Una decepción , el oráculo tehuelche vende mas humo que Massita 😁
Enzo,uno opina como quiere,no por eso soy bostero.a vos te gusta demichelis,perfecto,a mi me parece horrible.son opiniones.vos jugaste ,tengo entendido,bueno,yo también,hasta que me tuve que decantar para el deporte que más condiciones tenia:el boxeo.a mi el fútbol me encanta,River es para mi ,el mejor club del mundo.ahora,aplaudir todo ,sin crítica,bueno,no va conmigo.y te repito hay tipos que yo me explico como llegaron a primera,caso paradela,un impresentable que en un equipo de jubilados sería suplente.respeta las opiniones ajenas,yo respeto las tuyas ,aunque casi nunca .coincida.
Saludos
Ah!tampoco soy peronista.soy radical desde la cuna .
Pobre de lo mediocres que porque ganamos un campeonato donde no hay nadie excepto Talleres que nos bailo y vapuleo los 2 partidos (a mi entender mejor equipo que el nuestro), ya se creen que somo campeones de America o no se puede criticar a Demichelis o quien sea (a pesar de los horrores tacticos varios varios varios.. algunos casi aficionados ), donde quedo el paladar negro del hincha de River, que se conforma ahora con solo llenar la cancha o empatar milagrosamente con Central, prefiero a la vieja guardia ese que putea por mas que vaya ganando 3 a 0. Aca muchos son hinchas de la hinchada o de los DTS, eso se los dejo para los chanchos de la Ribera.
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