Con ausencias obligadas por problemas físicos, Marcelo Gallardo hizo varios cambios en la práctica de esta mañana. ¿A quiénes probó?.
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Después de la derrota contra Lanús y con dos jugadores tocados físicamente, Marcelo Gallardo aprovechó la práctica en el River Camp para empezar a meter mano en el equipo. Si bien los once que paró esta mañana no serían los que van a salir a la cancha contra Godoy Cruz, se ven indicios de futuros cambios pensando en Boca y en la Copa Libertadores.
Armani; Mayada, Maidana, Martínez Quarta, Pinola; Quintero, Zuculini, Ponzio, Nacho Fernández; Mora y Pratto fue el equipo con el que el Muñeco trabajó y empezó a ensayar variantes. Pity Martínez estuvo al margen por molestias físicas, mismo caso que Nacho Scocco que está administrando cargas para evitar una complicación mayor.
Además probó con Saracchi por Pinola, De la Cruz por Zuculini y Borré por Nacho Fernández.
Quedan varios compromisos antes de la finalde la Supercopa Argentina y será importante que las posibles modificaciones para ese partido lleguen con tiempo de trabajo. No hay nada definido aún, pero las ideas están en la cabeza de Napoléon.
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Muñeco, hace un par de años te vengo diciendo que el equipo, en River y en la China, se arma de atrás para adelante……………………
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En estos momentos, todos los cambios son bienvenidos y esperemos que encuentre la solución al equipo el próximo fin de semana. Pero digo una cosa, Lanus nos ganó con 3 chicos de inferiores en cancha entre 19 y 21 años y desde el banco entraron 2 más. Las inferiores de Lanus son mejores que las nuestras? Vamos… Yo ese cuento de que en muchos años no va a aparecer nadie no me lo creo. Posiblemente no haya ningún crack como a finales de los 90, pero tipos que rindan en su posición sin descollar tiene que haber seguro. Porque los que estan hoy en cancha no brillan y tampoco rinden.
Lo digo porque tenemos un equipo de gerontes, me parece necesitamos aire fresco, piernas frescas. Los rivales con los que perdimos son todos horribles, pero nos ganan corriendo y raspando en la mitad de la cancha. A mi no me gusta eso, siempre prefiero ganar jugando al fútbol. Pero si no se puede de esa manera, habrá que empezar a cambiar el libreto…
Pedro sabe muy bien cuando el muñeco nos tiene que enamorar (o reenamorar)
El Negro Astrada, uno de los DTs más nefastos que hayan pasado por River, se dio el lujo de ganar un campeonato en el club gracias a que tenía en el equipo a Lucho González y a Mascherano -titulares en el mediocampo de la Selección argentina que jugaría el Mundial de Alemania-. El tiempo dejaría en claro que Astrada, además de ser un perdedor serial de clásicos como jugador, es un burro con todas las letras como entrenador que fracasó por todos los lugares en los que dirigió.
En enero de este año D’onofrio salió desesperado a buscarle a Napoleón un Lucho González y un Mascherano. Pagó 13 palos verdes por uno y no logró traer al otro (Silvio Romero). El técnico está más perdido que Tarzán en el Día de la Madre, esto termina mal, debió irse en diciembre de 2016 después de ganarle la final a Central.
Gallardo comparado con Astrada. Justificación: Lucho Gonzalez y Mascherano – Pratto y el no pase de S Romero. Es verdad que Gallardo no encontró el equipo aún, y las pruebas de la práctica de hoy se deben a eso. Pero que te hace acordar a Astrada este ciclo de Gallardo? Yo realmente no veo nada parecido…
Es cierto, con Astrada en el banco la bosta jamás nos ganó 3 clásicos seguidos en nuestra cancha, me equivoqué, pobre Negro..
Algunos hablan del vomito del otro dia, pero hace 2 años y medio que venimos jugando igual (Toda responsabilidad del DT).
-Basta de Montiel de 4 (Septimo partido que nos hace perder)
-Basta de N. Fernandez y E.Perez juntos (juegan de los mismo y se superponen)
-Me canso el Pity (A pesar de ser el unico que puede desequilibrar en el mano a mano)
Tenemos un plantel corto y con poco recambio casi nada de calidad. Dentro de este equipo mediocre de mitad de tabla para abajo como vengo repitiendo hace año y medio lo armaria:
-Armani; Mayada(Moreira cuando se recupera algun dia)-M.Quarta-Maidana,Pinola;Quinteros (mayada),Ponzio,Zuculini,Rojas;Scocco-Pratto
Me gusta tu equipo Seba. Hoy Fernandez y Enzo no estan para titulares. Y el Pity retrocedio lo avanzado en 2017, volvio a ser le mismo sin cerebro regala pelotas de siempre.
Ja, muy gracioso. Pobre negro, pobre Capa, pobre Gorosito. Quien mas? Que poca memoria. Me olvide que antes de que viniera Gallardo veniamos ganando una copa por año… no veniamos de la B y de un retorno a primera perdiendo las copas argentinas con equipos como estudiantes de BS AS y la sudamericanas por goleada con Lanus. Ojo, a Ramon lo quiero, no soy de los que eligen a un idolo u otro, cada uno aportó lo suyo. Pero acuérdense como veniamos del 2010 al 2014. Hagab el balance del 2015 al 2018. Se puede mejorar? Claro que si. En eso estamos.
En que estamos?? Vamos desmejorando, que mejoria viste?? Nos meten un gol y no tenemos reaccion, no le metemos un gol a nadie, donde esta la mejoria?? El negro astrada no hacia locuras mientras tuvo algo de plantel anduvo bastante bien (metio dos semis de copa y campeonato) cuando papada empezo a meter mano en el plantel desde luego que desbarranco. Pero los ultimos planteles del Astrada estan muy por debajo de los planteles con los que conto Gallardo.
Que vuelva Astrada. Por dios. Dos semi de copa. A Gallardo le chorearon una y es fracaso. Las dos semi de astrada van a la vitrina? Claro que arrancamos mal. Pero despues de olimpo estaban todas exitadas con el amigo de maluma. Hoy ya piden la cabeza de todos. Una semana pasó. Tambien veo que gallardo no encuentra el equipo. Pero por eso voy a pedir su cabeza? Por la de quien? Astrada? Por favor. Prefiero ver seguir trabajando al DT. Confio en su honestidad en base a lo que logró, que no fueron dos semis… y acordate que le gano una semi a bosta y en 8vos de copa tambien. Esos clasicos los ganó astrada??
Le chorearon una!!!! Jajaja mamá.. Seguro los 4 goles en 20 minutos los hizo el árbitro.. Lo que pasó esa noche de mierda fue una de las páginas más negras de nuestra historia, yo lo pongo casi a la par del descenso, estábamos 3 a 0 arriba, casi con los dos pies en otra final de Libertadores.. Yo todavía no asimilo lo que pasó. El único recuerdo es a Gallardo diciéndole a Barboza, entrá y salvame, andá a jugar de delantero.
Astrada tuvo la desgracia de jugar las dos semis contra el boca de Bianchi y el San Pablo que después le ganaría al Liverpool en el Mundial de Clubes.. Y Astrada tuvo la mala suerte de que ellos salieran a jugar el segundo tiempo en la vuelta, algo que con Gallardo no pasó
Nadie pide que vuelva Astrada, pero tampoco fue tan desastre, el arbitraje que Astrada tuvo en contra contra boca el muñeco lo tuvo a favor, hay pequeñas cosas que suman. Y por ahora cuando esas cosas las tuvo en contra el muñeco tambien fallo. Yo lo banco a Gallardo pero le llego la hora de demostrar, porque gano la copa del 2015 (con no poca suerte en como pasamos el grupo) no se lo puede esperar estos 4 años de contrato, la realidad es que los ultimos dos años no encontro el equipo.
Esa semi de 2004 fue muy digna, en la ida echan mal al propio muñeco porque lo tenia que echar a Cascini y los arbitros son muy cagones con boca. Y el gol de Schiavi es con foul. En la vuelta Baldassi se hace el boludo con un penalazo a maxi lopez. Son todas cositas que suma. La final a los colombianos se la ganabamos sin dudas. Esas cosas finas el muñeco contra boca las tuvo a favor, no asi con lanus e Independiente del valle.
si analizamos el desempeño de Gallardo como DT de campeonatos locales
nos vamos a encontrar que gano solo el 55% aprox de los puntos, un porcentaje demasiado bajo para River, se salva por los campeonatos internacionales y la copa argentina, lo que esta a la vista de todos es que el equipo juega mal, no se aprecia un trabajo de la semana, tampoco jugadas
de pelota parada, realmente decepcionante, hay material ahora como para
revertir la mala imagen, espero que acierte con los cambios y el planteo.
Dentro de lo poco que tenemos por lo menos balanceamos la defensa y el mediocampo, no tenemos un generador de juego (por ende no generamos situaciones de gol), no tenemos alguien en el banco que genere juego, entonces volvamos a las bases 2 volantes que conozcan la bandas (mayada y rojas) y 2 laterales aguerridos (moreira y pinola). Pinola siempre me gusto mas de lateral que de central (pierde mucho la marca)
Tambien se que fue error nuestro el partido con Lanus. Pero en este caso lo expresé asi por el asombro de ver como le suman estrellas a Astrada por perder las semis. Perdió con Boca muchachos. En la bombonera hizo el planteo mas mezquino de los ultimos años. Dirigir a River no es para culquiera. Gallardo tiene mucha espalda. Esta pasando por un mal momento. Los exitos son efimeros. Es lógico que en un ciclo de 4 años sea más lo perdido que lo ganado. Pero no dejen de ver lo logrado, no para justificar el mal momento, sino para bancar y entender que de esta se puede salir con Gallardo como DT. Entiendo igual que pidan la cabeza en bandeja. Pero estaría bueno saber a quien traerían. Muchos de acá pedían a Sampaoli. Menos mal que se lo llevo Tapia
Bueno, yo no coincido. Para mí el crédito del técnico se terminó el último día del año pasado. A partir de ahora, es uno más, las copas están en las vitrinas pero no podemos vivir de recuerdos mientras domingo a domingo nos sopapea cualquier rejunte de matungos. A Galalrdo lo veo frustrado, desbordado, nervioso, histérico al borde del campo de juego, si no mirá la foto de la nota. Y, sobre todo, adoptó una faceta llorona en el último tiempo inentendible, eso hay que dejárselo a los mellizos.
En el último tiempo se habla más del “Gallardo líder, catedrático en las conferencias de prensa” que del Gallardo DT. Lanús nos pegó un baile bárbaro en la Supercopa el año pasado pero ah, el técnico les ordenó a sus dirigidos que se quedaran a la ceremonia de premiación. La bosta nos ganó por 3ra vez en 3 años en nuestra cancha, pero che.. la puta, qué bien Gallardo, le dijo a Pitana que no tratara de “pendejo” a Montiel, todo bien educadito y sin gritar.. Basta, tengo las pelotas llenas, poné a un lateral de 4, a un 8 de volante por izquierda, y dejá de romper los huevos, no sos Rinus Michels, en el fútbol está todo inventado. Pero qué se yo, es mi opinión.
La semi que astrada perdio con boca (ese boca era mucho mas que lanus) con robo al igual que Gallardo la perdio con lanus, pero el muñeco perdio una ventaja de 3 goles, astrada corrio de atras siempre. El planteo no fue mezquino, le echaron al 10 a mitad del primer tiempo (mal echado). Encima este año el cara rota de cascini diciendo en 90 minutos que lo echan mal porque al muñeco le saca la segunda amarilla y fue al reves a gallardo lo echa porque lo echa por segunda amarilla a el, todo eso porque acercaron caras en una semi de copa libertadores.
Antes de la suspensión, Mayada jugo dos partidos de carrilero por izquierda y jugó muy bien, ¿para que carajos lo mete de 4 ? si ahí nunca funciono muy bien, de 4 ponelo a Casco que cuando jugó por derecha lo hizo bien, de tres fue temible, no entiendo porque poner dos zurdos de carrileros, de 8 ponelo a enzo perez y de 10 mentiroso a Quinteros, los dos del medio están bien, quiero ver a Zuculini a ver que pasa.
River jugo la final de la copa 2015 con Ponzio y Kranevitter, tranquilamente podria juntar a Ponzio y Zuculini. Gallardo tiene que olvidarse del lirismo de jugar con uno solo de marca y armar algo mas equilibrado. Parece que se olvido del pragmatismo que le hizo ganar cosas importantes.
de 4 jugaron Solari, Casco, Mayada, Montiel y algún otro que me olvido y todos fracasaron porque tuvieron que jugar de la mitad de la cancha para arriba por ese delirio de creer que había que atacar, atacar y nada más.
cuando de 4 jugaba Mercado y aún se había inaugurado la era del ‘fútbol de gallardo’ River ganó las Copas.
parecía que Gallardo se había bajado del pony pero contra Lanús se subió a un elefante y el Laucha Acosta se hizo un pic nic, casualmente entrando por el callejón libre del 4.
pero bueno, pasó, esperemos.
uno cree que la hija de tinelli no se va a hacer un tatuaje mas, que f. ball no va a seguir pateando minas y que gallardo no va a seguir saliendo a hacer el segundo gol de entrada, pero, no tiene remedio ?
y aún se había = y aún no se había
Pero él siempre encontrará excusas por lo mal que juega el equipo, ahora de solucionarlo, ni hablar. Le falta decir que no se incorporó lo que quería y cartón lleno.
Mercado y Vangioni subían mas que todos esos juntos, hay que tener algo de memoria, a veces no estoy seguro de si se acomodan argumentos como conviene o se sabe muy poquito de fútbol….
Todo muy cierto, ¿pero es verdad, o no, que el equipo hace por lo menos año y medio que juega muy mal?
Si su virtud es la honestidad lo propondría como jefe de gabinete.
Es mas quiero un doble cinco para parar la seguidilla de derrotas, con un doble cinco combativo me animo a jugar con tres al fondo y un armador + 2 delanteros, en síntesis Armani
Maidana – M.Quarta – Pinola
Zuculini – Ponzio – Mayada
Quinteros – Scocco
Mora – Pratto
El ocho que había que haber convencido es Maxi Rodríguez, jugadorazo, jovatón pero impresionante.
El problema no son los laterales en sí, el problema es con quienes los pones a jugar. Saracchi y Montiel pueden pasar 100 veces al ataque y van a perder las 100 veces porque River no tiene volantes por afuera para que se pueda hacer el famoso 2-1 con el contrario. Al no tener un socio, los laterales nunca están libres para llegar bien hasta el fondo. Por derecha, no juega absolutamente nadie en el medio y por izquierda de vez en cuando está Martinez pero no siempre juega ahí, ya que tiene libertad para moverse por todos lados (y siempre desordenado, sin ningún criterio). Por eso nuestros laterales no terminan ni atacando, ni defendiendo.
Cuando estaban Mercado y Vangioni tenían con quienes juntarse. Rojas se tiraba a la izquierda y triangulaban con Pisculichi y Vangioni. Por derecha, Sanchez y Mercado también hacían triangulaciones con Pisculichi. Por eso al tener un abanico más amplio de opciones a la hora de pasar la pelota, ese equipo jugaba siempre bien y los contrarios no podían agarrar a todos. Todo eso sostenido con un Kranevitter que se bancaba sólo el medio y no necesitaba ayuda.
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