Por Tomás Kunz (@TomasKunz_)
Victoria importantísima de River en La Paternal ante Argentinos Juniors. Un partido en el cual durante el primer tiempo tuvo al conjunto de Gabriel Milito superior en el juego y a un River muy golpeado que no supo generar situaciones de peligro por la falta de volantes de creación. Situación que se invirtió por completo con el ingreso de Juan Fernando Quintero, Agustín Palavecino y Lucas Beltrán, tres jugadores que le cambiaron totalmente la cara al equipo. Los tres convirtieron goles y le dieron lucidez y frescura al partido.
Con el triunfo de esta noche ante el Bichito Colorado, el conjunto de Marcelo Gallardo se posicionó en la tercera posición de la tabla anual (Copa de la Liga + Liga Profesional de Fútbol) con 64 puntos. Aprovechó las derrotas de Argentinos Juniors, Huracán y Estudiantes y el empate de Gimnasia, los cuatro principales perseguidores. Lamentablemente los dos que tiene arriba, Racing y Boca, no perdieron puntos, consiguieron dos grandes triunfos y se posicionaron en la primera y segunda posición con 70 y 69 puntos, respectivamente.
Así quedó la tabla anual para clasificar a la Copa Libertadores 2023:
Con unos tres puntos claves en la espalda, el Millonario no puede dormirse nuevamente porque el miércoles se enfrentará ante Estudiantes de La Plata, otro perseguidor suyo que quiere ingresar a la Copa Libertadores 2023, en el estadio Mâs Monumental por la fecha 23 de la Liga Profesional de Fútbol. Un encuentro sumamente importante para el plantel que llega motivadísimo y con hambre de gloria.
#GALLARDO 2023!
Pesimo planteo en el primer tiempo, Gallardo la polvora ya fue inventada, hay que poner jugadores de buen pie y mas en cancha chica donde los corredores o barulleros como Barco no tienen chance, Quintero no puede ser NUNCA suplente es el unico distinto del plantel, menos mal que la sensatez volvio en el 2do tiempo y ahi con los cambios se gano el partido gracias al guante que tiene Juanfer en su zurda, y como siempre escribo los partidos los ganan o pierden los jugsdores, eso si el tecnico tiene que armar un equipo logico no como ayer, si este es el mejor tecnico de la historia yo soy la Msdre Teresa se cansa de regalar campeonatos por su mala eleccion en formaciones de equipo.
Por lo que leo de todos, soy un afortunado porque vi solo el segundo tiempo, hay que terminar este año de mierd…cuanto antes con la clasificación, y digo clasificación por la guita, imposible con la corrpubol…..una lastima que no hayamos estado un poquito a la altura, porque es un poquito nada mas, como decimos todos, cabeza fría, revisar y limpiar para le año que viene…Borja le esta tomando el ritmo a nuestro fulbo…..Solari, que paso pibe?.
Amadeo como estas? todos sabemos el que el clava al angulo es el jugador y no DT, ahora si el primer tiempo fue pésimo por el planteo del DT, y después cambia y mejora, es porque hoy es mucho mas importante el DT que en otras épocas, nada, lo digo porque considero que antes ganabas con la camiseta, de hecho hasta el 67 puede ser? salían campeones solos los grandes (estadística, yo no viví esa época), lamentablemente nunca se podrá saber si es el mejor DT de la historia porque es muy subjetivo y va en gustos, ahora si lo medís en % triunfos, títulos, etc. ahí podríamos verlo, la verdad no voy hacer esa cuenta, no me interesa, para mi hoy x hoy con sus falencias no hay uno mejor que MG
no le encuentro explicacion a lo de solari.cual sera el verdadero?
gran reaccion del tecnico en el segundo permitio una clara y contundente e importante victoria!!
pensando en un abuena pretemporada con quienes no hicieron , sobretodo borja y ..tambien solari..el año q viene explotan!
Y para mi uno de las mayores errores que comete, es creer que con estos jugadores puede hacer planteos tácticos innovadores e inteligentes, cuando tenemos players con un balde en la cabeza…no esta la calidad y la personalidad que en otros años..
#GALLARDO 2064 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…..Salgan muchachos…no pasa nada….ya los conocemos…son muy obvios ….solo aparecen en las malas….permitanse disfrutar….estamos en el mejor ciclo de la historia…con el mejor de TODOS…Suleimannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
yo creo q muchos vinieron q implica mucha adaptacion junta .al
mundo gallardo . calidad hay , antes fue pity y nacho asi de a uno ahora hay mucho junto .. no sabes las cosas. ponian aca de ellos .. decile robin !!
Where are the ORCOS ????????
El quinto objetivo se está poniendo en marcha y cada vez más cerca si seguimos cosechando puntos que nos permitan clasificar de manera directa y sin depender de nadie, solo de nosotros mismos. Ojalá se nos de en estás últimas fechas que nos quedan y que podamos conseguir los últimos 15 puntos restantes. Como dijo Gallardiola hay que pelear hasta el final y si concuerdo con eso pero mijo con esos planteos tácticos como el del 1er tiempo va a resultar algo imposible, de suerte el rival no pudo marcar porque si lo hacía … Y más con el nivel que vienen mostrando nuestros jugadores se nos iba a ser imposible remontar el resultado teniendo en cuenta el nivel de hemoglobina y adrenalina que el equipo adquiere cuando está perdiendo. Nada más que decir, la clave del triunfo estuvo desde el banco y la ráfaga de goles en 20 minutos aprox nos permitieron conseguir 3 puntos de oro!!! Vamos River carajoooo!!!
Soy de River soy de River yo soy de River yo sooooy
pala , dl cruz y quintero no pueden faltar en el equipo y claramente BORJA ES EL 9…
ayer se regalo un tiempo.
Traer dos centrales ,dos volantes mixtos ,lanzini y un delantero de real jerarquía y subir pires de la reserva.bajar a barco hasta que aprenda a jugar y limpieza total del plantel.hay ex jugadores:pinola,maidana,suarez,tipos a lo que no les da par jugar en river;zuculini,gomez,herrera,gpirez,martinez,paradela,etc.el chico solari debe trabajar físicamente y aprender algunos conceptos básicos.si se va armani hay que traer un arquero de selección y que ataje penales.recuperando a rojas y a peña e incorporando lo que se necesita, podemos volver a ser.hay que jugar la superiora con vosta,ese es el objetivo.bajarlos de un honrado.en vez de ver el mundial que hagan una buena pretemporada ,si es posible con los refuerzos y ya con el plantel limpio.
siempre la clave esta desde el banco formoseño .. vamos entendiendo . costo menos de loq pensaba . bien bien
Se inventaron una nueva: el 5to objetivo
Dejensé de joder
2022 fue un año recontra perdido y terminó en septiembre
En fin, que Quintero metió semejante golazo que el arquero no alcanzó ni a levantar las manos
Que mi poyito Palavecino hizo uno de los que fueron sus habituales goles
Equipo no hay, como forma River el miercoles contra Estudiantes ?
Los jugadores deberian saber si son titulares, suplentes, mucha locura
Por eso nos echaron de todos lados y jugamos por el 5to objetivo 🙄
Daniel…. Nacho y el Pity tenían otra cabeza y otro talento….seguro es adaptación…..pero en calidad no se eh no se……
Hola Pedro, también jugo tu pollo Gonzales Pires….o ya no te haces cargo de el….jajajajaja
Según una página, se van Maidana, Pinola, a Suárez le buscarán equipo, Pochettino, g.Pires y Barco de vuelta a la MLS, herrera y Gómez a buscar equipo, el chileno y Martínez si hay interes se venden, se intentará traer a Otamendi (difícil), el Pity, Nacho Fernández que quiere volver, Lanzini y Krannevitter y un defensa de san Lorenzo que no recuerdo el apellido.
Hola a todos, destaco la reacción de Gallardo, cuando no se puede jugar bien hay que cuidar el cero en el arco propio más allá que no nos guste ese estilo, hay que sumar para la copa ya que ese es el único objetivo que le queda a River.
Que feo es ver jugar a pires con la camiseta de River !!!
Después pretemporada y a planificar lo nuevo con Gallardo o sin él… River va a seguir siendo River….
Lo que es este año de River que Boca sin patear al arco nos lleva 7 puntos y además nos ganó los 2 clasico.
Recuerdo que en su momento me quejé mucho del destrato de Gallardo a Girotti y Carrascal, tanto que la situación no tuvo retorno, uno se fue a Talleres y el otro a ….Rusia !!!
Recordemos que a Carrasca lo limpio del equipo cuando mejor andaba (4 goles en 6 partidos) para poner al inútil de Rollheiser, muy mala idea con pésimos resultados. Y Girotti no aguantaba mas el manoseo, tanto que lo dejamos ir y nos quedamos sin delanteros.
Lo mismo estoy viendo con Juanfer, encima que no podemos pagar lo que se paga afuera, por lo menos hay que respetarlo un poco., es el único jugador de calidad que hoy por hoy tenemos. Hay que ponerlo en estado físico jugando, dando vueltas la cancha corriendo nunca va a estar bien.
guille, a mi no me lo digas de ellos nada ..yo veia lo mismo q vos…digo lo q decian los todos mal
El quinto objetivo, por así decirlo, es lo mínimo que se le debe pedir a River, que es clasificar a la LIbertadores 2023, como ya lo dije, no porque se piense seriamente en ganarla en los tiempos que corren contra los brasileros, sino por prestigio y por razones económicas.
Ahora…..hay que conseguirlo si o si antes de la última fecha en la que jugamos contra Racing. No vaya a ser cosa que por tener que ganarle a Racing para clasificar, si efectivamente le ganamos, le demos, indirectamente, el campeonato a los bosteros.
Para Guillermo, si hablamos de tecnicos ganadores te menciono a Minella, Cesarini, Labruna el Bambino etc, la historia de River es muy grande como para caer en un solo nombre, Gallardo gano la final mas importante sin duda pero perdio una bochornosa que no debe tener registro en la libertadores, 1 de cal y 1 de arena, asi es el futbol se pierde mas de lo que se gana
Forastello:
El dia que le hicieron a River un gol donde Centurión se la pasó despacito a un costado a Mamanna (como si fuera una bocha, escribí) a este lo apuraron y la pasó al centro (jamás !) a G. Pirez que dudó, lo anticiparon y con ese gol River perdió, lo llamé “los tres pelotudos”
Es decir, no me cierro como tres o cuatro que, negando las reiteradas derrotas cantan victoriosos “vamos por el 5to objetivo !!
Ayer no vi cosas serias que cuestionarle a G. Pirez.
Otro si digo, hoy Carrasca es número puesto en la selección de Colombia, que no es poco…
En cuanto a los jugadores que pone en cancha partido tras partido el Muñe, lo de ayer, salvo por cuestiones físicas, no se entiende por qué razón el mejor defensor del semestre no tuvo lugar para dejárselo a González Pirez que fue el peor defensor del semestre y que estaba o está ya condenado a volver a abandonar el club al cual nunca debió regresar y por qué razón el mejor jugador del último partido contra Patronato, Juanfer, no jugó de entrada en una cancha tan chiquita en la que se puede patear al arco desde cualquier lugar, siendo, además, que al planteo que armó le faltaba un enlace entre delanteros y medio y defensa y se jugó al pelotazo y a la segunda pelota durante todo el primer tiempo.
Daniel….vos preguntabas qué le pasó al pibe Solari?. Jugó tres o cuatro partidos de puntero derecho (lo que es) e hizo cuatro goles y desbordó o al menos lo intentó. Después lo pusieron por izquierda o lo cerraron para que pasara Herrera por su punta y se terminó su veranito. EL PIBE ES WING DERECHO, por ahora no da para más que eso. No arruinemos la virtud, única, que mostró hasta el presente. Después…..con tiempo, siempre se lo puede hacer un jugador más integral.
OscarH, el defensa de San Lorenzo que no recordas el apellido el año pasado no jugó seis meses porque lo operaron de una vertebra.
Cuando me referí al mejor defensor del semestre me refería a Mammana.
hreba, ese mejor defensor es un ex jugador
El mejor defensor de un semestre donde nos rajaron en todas !!
ya te van a contestar…porq no estuvieron..o los saco por ser el mejor sel semestre.. nadie como gallardo puede resolver esto
Amadeo ni en pedo digo que MG es el mejor de la historia, yo no soy absoluto en mi opiniones, tampoco me gustan las comparaciones porque las épocas son distintas, me decís el charro Moreno jugaba sin dormir y seguro que el 2 que lo tenía que marcar también había estado de serenata, yo hablo del ahora y trato de ver desde mi corta visión el futuro, jamas voy a criticar a un equipo que pierde una final porque hay jugarlas y a veces es suerte, tuvimos 2 muy dolorosas 66 y 2019. Y lo repito por enesima vez (porque siempre esta la sensación que los “gallardistas”) y seguro hablo por todos que RIVER ES MUY GRANDE Y NADIE ESTA POR ENCIMA…..
Guillermo F.
Comparto que las finales kas pierden los que las juegan y que las épocas son incomparables
Lo que si se puede comparar las delanteras de los equipos que nos ganaron
PEÑAROL Abadíe Rocha Spencer Cortes y Joya
LANUS Acosta Silva Sand R. Martinez y Pasquín
Y a través de esto, sin contar los defensores que tenía Peñarol y lo que era el fútbol uruguayo en los 60, podes sacar conclusiones, contra quien y como perdiste
jjja claro!! los defensores estaban igual!! o chupaban los de river nada mas!! genial guille!! ..pero claro ,,quien compara??? nadie es mejor ni peor q nadie..hoy no hay nadie como el .punto
Horacio como estas?, la de Lanus y la que nos empata el ciclón no las defiendo ni loco, son una gallineada pura y son imperdonables, hablaba de Flamengo, ahora comparando jugadores estas comprando épocas también, como hago para decir que Gabigol es mejor que cualquiera de los de Peñarol o al reves en que me baso…son gustos futbolisiticos que se yo no quiero caer en esta porque todos tienen sus gustos y sus razones.
Igual creo que el problema fundamental, al menos para el plano local, ya que a nivel sudamericano cada vez nos alejamos más del nivel de los principales equipos brasileros, está en dos cosas que son un tanto intangibles.
La primera es que cuando la mano empezó a venir mal en cuanto a resultados Gallardo no encontró la manera de enderezar el rumbo y los constantes cambios de jugadores y tácticos contribuyeron a la confusión más que a enderezar el barco. Creo que algunos jugadores le empezaron, al menos íntimamente, a cuestionar algunas cosas al entrenador.
La segunda es LA FALTA DE PERSONALIDAD DEL EQUIPO, por falta de personalidad de varios o muchos de sus jugadores, algo que señalamos desde un comienzo de año.
RIVER FLAQUEÓ EN LOS PARTIDOS CLAVE!!!!!!. ESTO ES DATO.
Fíjense que cuestionamos a veces la falta de gol y con razón porque el equipo genera poco y suele definir mal y cuestionamos seriamente el nivel de la defensa y con razón. Si se mira la tabla general del año, publicada en este mismo artículo, River es claramente el equipo más goleador y es el segundo con menos goles en contra con una diferencia de un gol con Racing. Claramente el que mejor diferencia de gol tiene.
Entonces? La respuesta es que se cometieron errores groseros, se jugó muy mal en PARTIDOS CLAVE. Se acuerdan que hace un tiempito decíamos que los equipos de Gallardo eran especialistas en los mano a mano (es decir en partidos clave)?. Bueno………nada que ver con lo que sucede ahora y eso es por cuestiones de mentalidad ganadora de los jugadores y por la confusión que mostró el DT en todo este año, empezando por armar un equipo plagado de “flojitos”
Ojalá se corrijan estas cosas para el futuro inmediato.
Hreba para corregir el futuro inmediato hay que limpiar el plantel y traer jugadores con personalidad y sanos ademas de calidad futbolistica, gastan millones en falopas y no traen buenos pieque son caros, es una simple cuenta matematica trae 3 buenos en serio en lugar de y ahi te cambia el resultado, de los ultimos por no mencionar la larga lista anterior no haces uno bueno salvo Solari que es como dijiste puntero derecho, Borja con una buena pretemporada puede andar, muchos cambios hace el tecnico ni el sabe lo que quiere hacer hay que darle una brujula.
Todos los que opinamos del juego, del equipo, y que no nos importan los nombres por sobre River, estamos más o menos en el mismo diagnóstico de lo que pasó en 2022.
Sólo nos queda clasificar a la libertadores y rezar para que la bosta no salga campeón, dicho sea de paso que bajo caímos pero es la realidad de éste momento.
No sigamos debatiendo
Alguien cerro el debate
Con . Punto
Pasemos a otro tema
Yo voy a escribir lo mismo que escribió Daniel como inicio del debate en esta nota. Pero con una diferencia, que sintetiza la diferencia de los que recibimos un mote típico de un maleducado descerebrado, que expresamos nuestra opinión y nuestras disidencias con fundamentos y que siempre estaremos en el foro, en las buenas y en las malas, aunque semejante maleducado, escudado en el anonimato del foro, pregunte dónde estamos.
Y aclaro, desde ya, que creo que el mejor DT para levantar este mal momento sigue siendo Gallardo, a mi criterio, revisando y corrigiendo sus errores, claro está y escuchando a los que puedan opinar distinto a él.
#RIVER 2023!
jajaja #GALLARDO 2023 #RIVER INFINITO
Ahora estamos de acuerdo, querido Daniel
y para el otro suceptible..punto seguido… siga volcando conocimientos
Quien serìa el maleducado descerebrado?????
#GALLARDO 2064
Se retira el Pipita…una pena…tremendo goleador..nunca valorado por los “sabios” de este pais…mamita…
Moreau nos manda a dormir
Tahilade pone punto final al debate
Falta que el otro que pone sobrenombres de personajes que en Andanzas de Paturuzu no existían, se saque una foto en Nueva York y diga que el turismo atenta contra la creación de empleo
uhh che .. ganamos 3 a 0 ..los leo mas felices cuando perdemos ..que pais !!
Jaja son así…les dicen “iglesia pobre”..no tienen cura..jajajajaja
FUENTE TELAM 11-08-2021
“Tim Drake, uno de los nombres que encarna a R—- en la popular serie animada de la década de los noventa, acepta en esta sexta edición del cómic salir con un hombre y, en un giro de época, confirma las especulaciones que durante años hicieron los fanáticos de la saga sobre la sexualidad del ayudante de Batman”
A la versión Argentina parece que se lo empoma Chuky (El Muñeco)
Jajaja muy bueno !!!! Espero que siempre opines …ganemos o perdamos…abrazo…todo es en broma…me calientan los que solo aparecen para hacer leña del árbol caido….
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